coverit Posts:996 Followers:3
On 02/15/2013 12:04 PM in NBA

All this Lebron/ Jordan talk, I will say this.....

Jordan is NOT the greatest ever. I'm sure plenty in here will argue otherwise, it's what ESPN has told you to believe for YEARS on end. HE IS NOT.

Titles? Save it. Russell has a lot more.

Maybe best in the clutch I've seen, if you count pushoffs to get shots off, and the benefit of refs calling fouls if you breathed on him the wrong way. He was a great FT shooter for sure.

One of the greatest, no doubt. Competitor? Hell yes. Best ever? Please.

I'm no Lebron lover, I'm a Kobe guy. But what Lebron is doing now is just unreal. Everyone should just enjoy it and stop trying to compare him to anybody else. Right now, he's the best player on earth, that's for sure.

I must be gettin' old... I still think baseball is cool.

finance Posts:8342 Followers:223
02/15/2013 12:20 PM

Nice - totally agree - just like in the NFL to me it's crazy to try to compare players of different eras.....all of the Lebron haters rightfully have nothing to say any more....he's won a ring with undoubtedly more to come and yes he needed a couple of other good players around him to get it done but who didn't? Pippen was listed as one of the top 50 of all time and Jordan couldn't win one without him....

If you look at that Cleveland team that Lebron took to the finals he really did it all by himself..hell the way he's playing now he might be able to win it with that team....but bottom line is it took a year + for them to settle in but the Heat are obviously his team now and should they all stay pretty healty going forward the sky is the limit....

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jimmythegreek Posts:10690 Followers:377
02/15/2013 12:21 PM

While I might agree here I guarantee you if he played those years he first retired, I'm sure most would feel a lot differently since he would put himself in position to challenge the top of the career marks and perhaps more championships.

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coverit Posts:996 Followers:3
02/15/2013 01:57 PM

Jordan was one of the greatest, I don't think otherwise. But the media and hype machine put it on a different level that just isn't true. He was a gunner, a great defender too, and shot well from the line. He wasn't a great outside shooter, great finisher sure, and yes, clutch.

Everyone seems to forget the losses they did have, and the Bulls teams that DID win, the talent around him. Pippen was an MVP candidate himself, a HOF player. Hell, when Jordan left, Pippen took that team to the ECFs! They were very good! Rodman is a HOF player. They had dynamite teams, it just wasn't MJ. The media painted him a God.

Of course, me being a Laker fan, I'm biased and hated him. Not to mention every bandwagon fan on earth being a Bulls fan during that time.

Anyway, I just find it interesting that people automatically compare Kobe or Lebron to MJ. I guess because of the spots they play. I'd compare Lebron more to Magic. Kobe and MJ are fair comparisons. But then people say "greatest ever?" C'mon. I'll take Wilt or Kareem if I had to choose. Or Oscar. I'd take a few before MJ anyway.

I must be gettin' old... I still think baseball is cool.