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Pfile Nickname marksmoneymakers
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07/26/2012 07:39 PM
I just came home from vacation and just saw this post. I really don't think there is anything I can add. I personally do not believe in paying for picks. You can find good cappers in most forums and don't need to pay anybody anything. I think the guys we have right here are pretty solid. I use my own opinions and then when hot cappers like it too, it makes it all the more stronger.
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  • 07/27/2012 01:22 PM
    marksmoneymakers:
    To be honest I'm not that crazy about sports and know basically nothing about it. But I like money and heard that sportsbetting is a good long time investment. I am willing to treat this as a long time investment. But since I don't know anything about sports I need the advice from experts, because there is no way I can make better picks than them. So I'm willing to pay for their expertise.

    But I can't afford the cost of $99 a week. Since I'm new to this I want to start with a small bankroll, for example (please don't laugh) $100 in each account and have like 4 different accounts, each following a different service. As you can see the money I would make doesn't even cover the cost for the picks. That is why I'm desperately looking for other services that I can afford.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the free picks from the experts of less quality and their paid ones?

    You use your opinions with the free picks, but unfortunately I don't have any opinions :).
    I know there is a risk of being looked at as a fool, trying to make money at sports when knowing nothing about it.
    But I want to be honest and tell you my point of view.
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  • 07/27/2012 02:14 PM
    I think what mark is saying is that he recommends using free picks from cappers in the forum, as you can see we have alot of good ones who post all their plays and suggests following the cappers there rather than paying for picks.. Generally free picks from expert cappers tend to be of lesser quality then paid ones..

    also to each his own with how much you bet with, only bet with what you can afford to lose. I would not suggest following 4 different cappers with different accounts you could easily get 1 winning account and 3 losing. and the one winning chances are wont equal the losing or be more. I would follow multiple cappers here in the forum see what they are taking and then try and decide for yourself of those picks which you like better and take them..

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07/27/2012 02:17 PM
Kalle,

If I can add my two cents. First of all so many here at the forum DO NOT have an agenda. Many of us have been posting on forums along with being tracked for more than 10 years. A few of the new guys are coming here trying to push their picks and sell you a bill of goods. With my two cents let me add this....

If you are starting your own business you need to invest in that business. Doesnt mean you need 20,000 dollars to get it started. But you say you want to only invest a few hundred dollars. If you open a business dont you need inventory, advertising dollars, you have to pay for utilities and so on? So my thought here is that you need to invest in your business if you want to be successful. Well if you want to create a business with sports picks then in the same concept you need to invest in that. You have heard the axiom that "you get what you pay for". Well if you are looking for something for Free or close to it, then obviously you are not willing to invest in your business.
As the guys have mentioned we have some great cappers here at the forum. BTB has created an online tracking and monitor system right here. We also have a paid cappers section so you are able to choose among those that you want to invest with. But honestly I would never tell you to go in business with a few hundred dollars and then expect to receive a 100% return in a couple of months. If you want to wager with those funds, use it for "fun and entertainment" purposes only. Enjoy the sports, enjoy the action, enjoy the games. For entertainment. If you win, great if you lose its like paying to go to the movies. Follow a few guys here at the forum if you want. I can tell you there are a bunch that are pretty solid. But remember it is a marathon and not a sprint.

So basically if you are taking this seriously then absolutely save up a few thousand dollars (as long as its not rent or food money). And then you can find a capper or two that takes his job seriously and will more than likely produce. But nobody is going to offer you picks for a couple bucks that are worth anymore to you than finding a good capper right here at the forum.

Just want to put things in perspective cause you are better off playing the entire 100 bucks on 1 game and hope to double your money if that is your goal. Money management is the key to winning in the long run.

In closing, free picks are not less likely to win than paid picks. There is no control of what will win or what will not win. A guy gives out a free pick to hopefully entice you into paying for another pick. Many of the guys do receive great information on certain games but that doesnt mean they feel not as strong as their free pick.

If you want to create a small business with the sports wagering, you need to treat it like a small business. And that takes money.

Keep posting here at the forum and as we get closer to football season you will see more and more guys posting their plays and take advantage of all the information out here.

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07/27/2012 07:21 PM
Another reason I do not believe in paying for picks is because you have to bet extra to pay for the winners, if they are winners. And what happens when it loses. Sure you may not have to pay for it, but you have to pay your book. I just do not see any value in paying for picks when there are many solid cappers in these forums who you can follow for free. All cappers, paid services or just people posting picks will hit hot and cold streaks. After all............this is gambling. We are all here at BTB to help each other beat the book and make money. That is what these forums are about.
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07/27/2012 11:39 PM
Just playing Devils Advocate Mark.
Sometimes it does make sense to pay for a capper. Many times someone does not have the time to handicap, nor has the time to follow up on the forum. They may be busy and decide to pay for a service. Again many of us wager for entertainment purposes and when you are not risking your rent money then you have a better chance of beating the book. The capper on the other hand is usually doing this full time. He may be obtaining good information, getting positive results and he does the work for you. Like anything else, sometimes you get what you pay for. I remember years ago I used to go to the Meadowlands racetrack. I was working in an insurance office at the time and we had an attorney that would come in and meet with some of our clients. Well he often went to the racetrack and I would meet him there. I once asked him why he would bet so much money on horses and have no clue what he was picking. He wouldnt handicap the races much and he would just go there and buy some sheets or pay someone to cap the horses for him. I said thats crazy, spend some time handicapping and save yourself a bunch of money. And what he said stayed with me to this day. He said the money he can earn running his business is a lot more money than taking the time to handicap a few races so why would he waste his time doing so. That said, since then I have always hired professionals to mow my grass, change the oil in my car, and paint my house etc. Cause I can make a hell of a lot more money doing my work than taking the time to cut the grass and doing other household chores. So what am I saying. I guess it all depends on that person. I would rather pay for a painter in this case a handicapper (if it warranted) to take the time to get me the plays and then do my daily work and make a ton more money doing what Im doing and what Im best in. That said, I think many of you know I dont need a capper to pick my games. lol

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07/28/2012 11:55 AM
I can see your point spooky. I am a very small bettor, so in my case I would really have to increase the size of my bets to make it worth it and I don't want to do that. Gambling is a form of entertainment for me. It is great when you win, but because I bet small it does not kill me when I lose. I love figuring out who to bet on and I love posting plays and opinions in these forums.
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07/29/2012 12:39 PM
Phew .........tough trying to turn any type profit when one is not knowledgeable/interested, in sports, etc. Most have overlooked this part of Kalle's situation. For me, I combine a few things, some of which (at times) are capper's picks. But, most importantly I have to have my gut agree with the play. If it doesn't sound, feel or taste right, it usually will be a no play for me (or maybe just a 1/4 unit or the like just for jollies.) But, it's tough to have that gut feeling without knowledge of the sport.
To reiterate.........if you're in this to turn a profit, it is a tough go to do so without knowledge. My advice: HIT THE BOOKS, the you can HIT THE BOOKS.
Or, since you haven't gotten hooked yet or are not in the hole and don't yet have the urge/need to get it all back, think about putting your $ in some well-placed mutual funds. As long as you are game to let someone else govern your choices for you , the manager is doing that for for you, just like a capper/ tout would, and generally, over a long-term (which is what you desire) they do well.
It's really scary out there, Kalle. GL, man
Never, ever criticize someone until you have walked a mile in their shoes........for at that point they will be a mile away. And you'll have their shoes !
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