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AFC North Outlook

May 8, 2013

The NFL draft steals most of the attention in April and May but the recent release of the NFL schedules is more telling factor in the potential results this season. Take a look at the four teams in the AFC North in this schedule preview. This has been a competitive 3-team race in recent years and the North could again be a very competitive division with the Ravens, Bengals, and Steelers still standing out ahead of the Browns. The difference between making the playoffs and not making the playoffs could be very thin in this division and the schedules will play a pivotal role.

Baltimore Ravens: The defending Super Bowl champions will face a tough slate in 2013 drawing Houston and Denver outside of the division and also having to battle all four NFC North teams. The AFC East draw softens the slate a bit potentially but the Ravens have the fifth toughest schedule in the NFL based on the 2012 win percentage of its opponents and by far the toughest slate in the AFC North by that measure. The season opens with a huge Thursday night game in Denver in a rematch of the epic playoff game from last season and the Ravens have several big games early in the season, with games against the Broncos, Browns, Texans, Packers, and Steelers in the first seven weeks. Baltimore only plays two games outside of the Eastern Time zone and the travel overall is pretty reasonable relative to the rest of the league. While there are some tough games late in the season four of the final six games of the season are at home and the Ravens will only play one road games outside of the division against a team that made the playoffs last season.

In the NFC draw the two NFC North playoff teams (Packers Vikings) from last season will both visit Baltimore and the Ravens also get to host New England in the AFC East draw as those pairings worked out favorably. The Ravens were just 10-6 last season despite the championship run so this was not a team that dominated in the regular season and with this slate a similar record is more likely than a record that would propel the Ravens to the top of the AFC. A fall to outside of the playoff picture is also possible if the Steelers rebound for a better season and the Bengals remain a very tough foe in the division.

Baltimore went 4-2 in division games last season and it will be tough to do better than that given the strong rivalries and home fields in this group as the AFC North was one of just two divisions that did not feature a team with a losing home record last year. Cincinnati and Pittsburgh could make up some ground on the Ravens and a letdown season after the championship is certainly possible. Baltimore does benefit from having most of the toughest games at home however, unlike the situation for Pittsburgh.

Baltimore Ravens 2013 Schedule Numbers:
2013 Opponents Win Percentage in 2012: .535
Games vs. 2012 Playoff Teams: 7 (five home, two away)
Miles Traveled for 8 road/neutral games: 5,553
Back-to-Back road game sets: 1
Primetime Games: 4 (two Thursday, one Sunday night, one Monday)

Cincinnati Bengals: The Bengals have busted into the playoffs the past two seasons though they have not picked up a playoff win since 1991 and Boomer Esiason was still under center. Cincinnati appears to be headed towards being a consistent playoff contender however after being a consistent doormat for many years with a great young nucleus of talent. Cincinnati actually had the best point differential in this division last season, better than the eventual Super Bowl champion Ravens and sights on a division title are realistic. The schedule for the Bengals this season lines up most of the toughest games at home but it may be a slate that is more difficult than it looks at first glance.

The challenge for Cincinnati this season will be surviving the first month of the season as the early season schedule is very tough. The Bengals open at Chicago and while the Bears are in a transition season with a new head coach, expectations are high and the Bears have a lot to prove. The next two games are at home but the Bengals host Pittsburgh and Green Bay. In Week 4 the Bengals are at Cleveland in a big rivalry game and then in Week 5 the Bengals host New England. That could be a five-game set that derails the goals for the season or brings the Bengals to the forefront of the AFC. Cincinnati plays non-playoff teams in five of six games in the middle of the season and will get three of the final four at home to close the year.

Five of eight home games for the Bengals are against 2012 playoff teams and the road schedule may be more difficult than the numbers imply as the Bears, Steelers, and Chargers should be viewed as playoff caliber teams even though they missed the postseason last year. Cincinnati won five games by seven or fewer points last season and it may be a season of close calls again this year with the line between being back in the playoffs and missing out being a thin one in a very competitive division.

Cincinnati Bengals 2013 Schedule Numbers:
2013 Opponents Win Percentage in 2012: .508
Games vs. 2012 Playoff Teams: 6 (five home, one away)
Miles Traveled for 8 road/neutral games: 5,446
Back-to-Back road game sets: 2
Primetime Games: 3 (one Thursday, one Sunday night, one Monday)

Cleveland Browns: In this division it will be tough for the Browns to move up and the 2013 schedule does not offer Cleveland great opportunities. Cleveland has gone 1-7 on the road each of the past two seasons and the Browns line up an incredibly difficult road schedule this season, facing five 2012 playoff teams. Two of the road games against non-playoff teams will come in the second of back-to-back road games and another 1-7 road season is certainly a possibility. The Browns are the only team in the division to draw Kansas City and Jacksonville which is certainly an advantage but the Chiefs could be a candidate for quick improvement and that matchup will also be a second straight road game for the Browns.

Cleveland will travel very few miles this season which could boost the chances of improving the season road record as the Browns won’t play a game outside of the Central or Eastern Time zones. Another edge the Browns may have in the schedule is that there is an opportunity for Cleveland to get off to a strong start this season with four of the first six games at home and three of those home games coming against fellow losing teams from 2012. A strong start could build some confidence for this team and the Browns won the home meetings with both Pittsburgh and Cincinnati last season as they may be able to take another step towards closing the gap in the division with the top three teams.

The Browns were just 5-11 last season but they were only outscored by just over four points per game on average for the season and the defense was respectable allowing 23 points per game. Cleveland has such a tough road schedule this season that major improvement seems unlikely but the Browns could produce a strong record at home with most of the favorable matchups coming in Cleveland. Getting into playoff position seems like a long shot but the Browns could be a team that sees a slight improvement and could even flirt with a .500 record should things fall favorably with the schedule being a factor in the improvement.

Cleveland Browns 2013 Schedule Numbers:
2013 Opponents Win Percentage in 2012: .492
Games vs. 2012 Playoff Teams: 7 (two home, five away)
Miles Traveled for 8 road/neutral games: 3,990
Back-to-Back road game sets: 3
Primetime Games: 1 (one Thursday)

Pittsburgh Steelers: After a disappointing and injury filled 2012 season the Steelers seem like an appealing candidate for a bounce back season. Pittsburgh had one of the best defensive teams in the NFL last season but managed to go just 8-8 on the season, missing the playoffs and sliding into the third place slot in this division. Getting to play Tennessee and Oakland in the 3rd place draw is favorable and the Steelers will only play seven true road games with a trip to London in Week 4. Pittsburgh will play most of its toughest games on the road with a home schedule that only features two playoff teams, the two teams that made the postseason from the AFC North last season. Pittsburgh faces a slate that features the same 2012 winning percentage as Cleveland’s 4th place schedule which could make Pittsburgh a candidate to rise to the top of this division. Pittsburgh did lose three times at home last season but this is also a team that historically has been able to win on the road with some success as well.

Pittsburgh will have several very tough road matchups and the road games at New England and at Baltimore will both come in the second of back-to-back road games. Pittsburgh does close with three of the final four games of the season at home which could help a late playoff push if needed though a challenging
Week 16 game at Green Bay is ahead and that game follows up a possible Sunday night tilt with the Bengals. The road game at Baltimore is not only the second of back-to-back road games it comes on the heels of a division game with the Browns and will be on a short week with a Thursday night time slot so the Steelers might have a hard time improving on their 3-3 division mark from last season as several division games come in difficult spots on the schedule.

Pittsburgh is a team that could make a rise in the standings with improved health but there are some pieces missing from the great Steelers teams of years past. Another season teetering right on the edge of the playoffs either way is likely the result in 2013 again with the challenging road schedule ahead although this could again be a division where 10-6 is good enough to take the top spot.

Pittsburgh Steelers 2013 Schedule Numbers:
2013 Opponents Win Percentage in 2012: .492
Games vs. 2012 Playoff Teams: 7 (two home, four away, one neutral)
Miles Traveled for 8 road/neutral games: 8,585 (Includes 3,725 to London)
Back-to-Back road game sets: 2
Primetime Games: 4 (one Thursday, two Sunday night, one Monday)

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05/09/2013 07:25 PM

NFC North Outlook

April 27, 2013


The NFL draft gets all the attention this week, but the recent release of the 2013 schedule can be a more telling factor in how a team will fare next season. Take a look at the four teams in the NFC North in this schedule preview. The Minnesota Vikings made a big splash in the first round of the draft, but a daunting travel schedule is ahead for Minnesota this season. The Bears may have the most favorable schedule in the group, but a team in transition may not be able to take advantage. The schedule should point to a rise for the Lions and perhaps a small drop for the Packers in the NFC North, but time will tell if there will be enough of an impact to shake up the standings.

Chicago Bears: The Bears were 10-6 last season, but with another late-season collapse a bold coaching change was made. 57-year old CFL veteran Marc Trestman was certainly not a hire that many fell in love with and while he will inherit a team that can compete right away, there also will be elevated expectations for a first-year coach and a first-time NFL head coach, especially one that has been away from the NFL for almost a decade. Few 10-win teams get a 3rd-place schedule the following year, so the opportunity for the Bears to have early success is there. The 3rd-place games bring the Saints and the Rams and those are games Chicago will probably need to take if the playoffs are to be a reality as the NFC North draws the NFC East and AFC North teams for a rather difficult overall slate ahead.

Chicago will play four of the first six games at home, which could be very helpful for a team in transition. They will host 2012 playoff teams in the first two weeks, but Cincinnati and Minnesota are not as fearsome as some of the other playoff caliber teams in the league. The Bears are saddled with three separate sets of back-to-back road games this season, but compared with the rest of the division, Chicago has a favorable slate of road games with only one game outside of the division against a team that made the playoffs last season. Chicago also gets to play its Monday night game with Green Bay coming off a bye week and with a favorable late-season slate, another collapse is not likely this season. Chicago closes the season hosting Green Bay, but has Dallas, Cleveland, and Philadelphia in the three weeks prior to the finale. Chicago will not play a single game outside of the Eastern and Central time zones as the travel miles are among the lowest in the league. Overall, the Bears have the most favorable schedule in the NFC North and while repeating a double-digit win season in a coaching transition is a difficult task, Chicago has a good shot to move back into a playoff position this year if they can get off to another strong start.

Chicago Bears 2013 Schedule Numbers:
2013 Opponents Win Percentage in 2012: .502
Games vs. 2012 Playoff Teams: 7 (four home, three away)
Miles Traveled for 8 road/neutral games: 3,476
Back-to-Back road game sets: 3
Primetime Games: 3 (one Thursday, two Mondays)

Detroit Lions: With three 10-win teams from 2012 in the NFC North, the Lions are facing one of the toughest schedules in the league based strictly on last year’s results. After breaking into the playoffs in 2011, the Lions suffered a huge decline last season with a 4-12 record including losing each of the final eight games of the season. Despite being 4-12, the Lions were only outscored by an average of just four points per game and this is a talented team that could be a strong candidate for a rebound season. Given the climate in the locker room and the general sense of immaturity on the roster and starting with head coach Jim Schwartz, a scenario on the other end of the spectrum is certainly a possibility as well. Detroit failed to win a single game within the division last season, so that will be an obvious area where the Lions need to improve. Ford Field also saw the Lions go just 2-6 in home games despite an offense that was very productive, scoring over 23 points per game on average.

By finishing fourth in the division last year, the Lions are the only NFC North team that has Arizona and Tampa Bay on its schedule and that is certainly an advantage given the overall depth of the NFC and the teams that the rest of the division has to face in those match-ups. Detroit does have three sets of consecutive road games on the schedule this year and the Lions could know early how the season will turn out having to play four of the first six games of the season on the road. The late-season schedule is challenging with the Ravens, Giants, and Vikings in the final three weeks, but the Lions do get a bye week before their road meeting with the Bears and the three division home games come in relatively favorable spots on the schedule. Both of the big primetime games for the Lions will also be at home. The Lions certainly look like a team that should improve on last season’s ugly record, but whether they will improve enough to buy this coaching staff another season remains questionable in a very tough division.

Detroit Lions 2013 Schedule Numbers:
2013 Opponents Win Percentage in 2012: .539
Games vs. 2012 Playoff Teams: 7 (four home, three away)
Miles Traveled for 8 road/neutral games: 5,125
Back-to-Back road game sets: 3
Primetime Games: 2 (one Thanksgiving, one Monday)

Minnesota Vikings: The Vikings bolstered their roster with three first round picks and coming off a surprising 10-6 season and a trip to the playoffs, Minnesota might look like a team on the rise. The Vikings will be dealt one of the tougher schedules in the NFL, as they will play just seven home games by virtue of facing Pittsburgh in London. The road schedule is truly difficult as after the opening game at Detroit, Minnesota’s remaining seven road games will all be against teams that finished 8-8 or better last season. In the AFC North, draw the Vikings have road games against Baltimore and Cincinnati, the top two teams from that division last season and they will also have to play at Seattle in the second place NFC draw. There are winnable home games outside of the division with Cleveland, Carolina, and Philadelphia all visiting the Metrodome, but an early Week 5 bye could add to a challenging second half of the season schedule. Minnesota also plays its two biggest division road games, at Chicago, and at Green Bay in the second of back-to-back road games this season.

The Vikings open up with back-to-back road games in the division at Detroit and at Chicago and in late November, they have a brutal set of road games at Seattle and at Green Bay in back-to-back weeks. The home meeting with Green Bay will be a big Sunday night game for the Vikings, but it comes on the heels of a Monday night game in New York, giving the Vikings long travel and a short week for one of the biggest games of the season, while the Packers get to host the Browns leading up to that game. Minnesota went 4-2 in the NFC North last season and it will likely take a similar mark for Minnesota to flirt with the postseason again. With Chicago in a coaching transition and Detroit coming off a dreadful season, it is possible for Minnesota to maintain its place but the Vikings were a team that snuck out several narrow wins last season to sneak into the playoffs and a step-back season is probably a more likely scenario with this slate.

Minnesota Vikings 2013 Schedule Numbers:
2013 Opponents Win Percentage in 2012: .516
Games vs. 2012 Playoff Teams: 6 (two home, four away)
Miles Traveled for 8 road/neutral games: 11,365 (includes 4,280 to London)
Back-to-Back road game sets: 2
Primetime Games: 3 (one Thursday, one Sunday night, one Monday)

Green Bay Packers: The Packers will be the favorites to win the NFC North for the third straight season this year and Green Bay will likely be one of the popular picks to win the Super Bowl again. The Packers stumbled to an 11-5 finish last season and ending up in the #3 spot in the NFC playoff picture proved to be too difficult as Green Bay saw an early playoff exit for the second year in a row. Green Bay was the highest-scoring team in this division last season but in the playoffs the defense showed glaring concerns with an embarrassing loss at San Francisco to end the season. Green Bay will open the season where they left off with a Week 1 match-up at Candlestick Park, a contest they lost in during the opening week last season as well. Having to play San Francisco as well as Atlanta with the first-place schedule is certainly a challenge for the Packers and overall it is not an easy slate for the green and gold. The first four road games of the season will all be against 2012 playoff teams and Green Bay will only play one road game against a team that had a losing record last season, the division game at Detroit in early December.

In the AFC North draw, the Packers get road games against the Super Bowl champion Ravens as well as the Bengals and the Packers will also have to play a road game against another recent nemesis, the New York Giants. The Packers have gone 15-1 at home the last two seasons and that is a run that could continue with a relatively favorable home slate, though there are just four games against losing teams from 2012 on the schedule the whole season. Green Bay will not have to play consecutive road games at any point in the season which is a favorable break in the schedule, especially compared with the rest of the division but the closing schedule is tough with a gauntlet of big national games with Atlanta, Dallas, Pittsburgh, and Chicago as the final four opponents. The Packers also will play four road games in the Eastern Time zone as well as the opener in the Pacific Time zone for some lengthy trips. Green Bay will have its work cut out for it this season and the door may be open for a surprise in the NFC North, although none of the other three teams appear poised to make that leap.

Green Bay Packers 2013 Schedule Numbers:
2013 Opponents Win Percentage in 2012: .533
Games vs. 2012 Playoff Teams: 7 (three home, four away)
Miles Traveled for 8 road/neutral games: 6,785
Back-to-Back road game sets: 0
Primetime Games: 5 (one Thanksgiving, three Sunday night, one Monday)

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05/09/2013 07:27 PM

AFC East Outlook

May 1, 2013


The NFL draft gets all the attention in the spring, but the recent release of the 2013 schedule can be a more telling factor in how a team will fare next season. Take a look at the four teams in the AFC East in this schedule preview. This certainly looks like New England’s division to lose, but the Dolphins look capable of a step forward season that could make the race more competitive. The Bills and Jets have many question marks, but could have opportunities ahead as the schedule ratings for this division are manageable.

Buffalo Bills: The Bills were a team that many expected to break into the playoff picture last season with a favorable schedule, but it was another losing season and big changes were made in Buffalo. The Bills have taken some heat for its draft class with E.J. Manuel being considered a reach by many in the middle of the first round, but the Bills will snag a fourth-place schedule in 2013 and could exceed expectations that are grounded with the transition to head coach Doug Marrone. Buffalo will only play five games all season against 2012 playoff teams and only the season finale at New England is on the road among those five games. Buffalo does surrender a home game to play a game in Toronto and that will be an early December match-up with Atlanta this season. While the Bills do not face any west coast travel and will play seven of eight road games in the Eastern Time zone, there are a lot of miles ahead for this team.

The Bills will make three separate trips to Florida to face all three franchises in the Sunshine State and also face a long trip to New Orleans. The Bills have to travel to Miami and New Orleans in back-to-back road games and then will have a set of three games in a row away from home in December, going from the Toronto game to back-to-back games in Florida at Tampa Bay and at Jacksonville. The Bills get to play four of the first six games of the season at home, but those will be against very tough opposition, facing New England, Carolina, Baltimore, and Cincinnati in those home contests. None of the first seven road opponents featured a winning record last season, as six of the eight road opponents this season had a losing record in 2012. Looking strictly at win percentage from last season, the Bills have by far the easiest schedule in this division but they are also the only team with a coaching change to deal with. The long travel and challenging home slate will likely make it tough for the Bills to improve on last season’s 6-10 mark in this transition season.

Buffalo Bills 2013 Schedule Numbers:
2013 Opponents Win Percentage in 2012: .473
Games vs. 2012 Playoff Teams: 5 (three home, one neutral, one away)
Miles Traveled for 9 road/neutral games: 6,394
Back-to-Back road game sets: 2
Primetime Games: 1 (one Thursday)

Miami Dolphins: Miami has certainly made some noteworthy moves and the fan base should be optimistic for the 2013 season. Ryan Tannehill certainly showed enough promise last season to expect good things in the future and the Dolphins finished the year as one of the best defensive teams in the AFC, allowing less than 20 points per game. By finishing 7-9 last season, the Dolphins moved ahead of the Jets and the Bills in the division and a second-place schedule is waiting, getting games with San Diego and Indianapolis. Strictly by win percentage from last season, Miami has the eighth-toughest schedule in the NFL and by a substantial margin the toughest schedule in the AFC East. The Dolphins will face three of the first four games of the season on the road and as usual the Dolphins will accumulate a great deal of travel miles this season.

Seven of eight road games will be at least 800 miles away for the Dolphins. Miami will also play four of its six division games in the final five weeks of the season including both meetings with the Jets coming in December. Miami will only play two road games against teams that had winning records last year as most of the toughest games will be at home including visits from Atlanta and Baltimore for the first two home games of the season. Miami might be favored in the opening week at Cleveland, but the Dolphins should be an underdog in the next four games before an early Week 6 bye, so it will be important for the Dolphins to be ready for a difficult first month of the season. Miami could have its best results late in the season as seven of the final eight games will be against teams that did not make the playoffs last season with the lone exception being the home date with the Patriots. The first few weeks could tell the story for the Dolphins as a slow start could spell trouble but a few early upsets could propel this team to playoff contention.

Miami Dolphins 2013 Schedule Numbers:
2013 Opponents Win Percentage in 2012: .520
Games vs. 2012 Playoff Teams: 6 (four home, two away)
Miles Traveled for 8 road/neutral games: 8,977
Back-to-Back road game sets: 2
Primetime Games: 3 (one Thursday, two Monday)

New England Patriots: Until the rest of the division improves, New England will continue to get relatively favorable schedule paths each season, despite typically finishing as a first-place team. Being the only team in the AFC East that has to play both Denver and Houston is a big disadvantage, but the Patriots do not have to play themselves twice like the Bills, Dolphins, and Jets have to, basically canceling out the first-place schedule disadvantage. New England only has to play five games against teams that made the playoffs last season, but four of those games will be on the road this year for the Patriots for a tougher wrinkle in the slate. Two of those games will come in the second of back-to-back road games with substantial travel involved as well.

While the home slate for New England is favorable, there are several marquee games, hosting New Orleans, Pittsburgh, and Denver for a tougher home schedule than the win percentage numbers might indicate. The Patriots certainly deserve to remain the overwhelming favorites in this division through this schedule, but the path ahead for New England to be a top seed in the AFC might be tougher than it first appears. There is substantial travel ahead and several difficult road games that come in less than ideal spots on the schedule, having to play road games against Atlanta and Cincinnati in back-to-back weeks as well as having tough road games at Carolina and at Houston sandwiched around the huge home game with Denver. New England’s AFC championship game rematch with Baltimore will come in Week 16 and it will the second of back-to-back road games after a long trip to Miami. The key for New England will be maintaining its dominance in the division as going 6-0 in the AFC East games again would likely keep the Patriots in the hunt for a bye in the playoffs.

New England Patriots 2013 Schedule Numbers:
2013 Opponents Win Percentage in 2012: .508
Games vs. 2012 Playoff Teams: 5 (one home, four away)
Miles Traveled for 8 road/neutral games: 7,128
Back-to-Back road game sets: 2
Primetime Games: 5 (one Thursday, three Sunday night, one Monday)

New York Jets: Coming off distraction-filled and very disappointing season, the Jets will face tremendous pressure again in 2013, with employment with the team likely on the line for Rex Ryan and quarterback Mark Sanchez, assuming Sanchez remains the starter over rookie Geno Smith or other candidates. The Jets will face a difficult first half schedule with three road games against 2012 playoff teams and big marquee home games with the Steelers, Patriots, and Saints. The five-game stretch from early October to a Week 10 bye week will be especially tough and this team will certainly be a candidate to have imploded already by that time. If the Jets can get through the first nine weeks with a respectable record, there could be a chance to make a run in the second half however. The Jets only play one 2012 playoff team in the final seven weeks of the season and there will be several winnable home games on the schedule late in the season including hosting two warm weather teams in December which could be a big advantage.

While the Jets travel the fewest miles in this division, the road slate is very difficult with four games against 2012 playoff teams, and not just playoff teams, three of those teams were in the conference championship games last season. The Jets will need a hot start to have a chance and that could be difficult given the fragile quarterback situation and a lot of new personnel likely in key roles. New York opens at home against Tampa Bay in what could be a critical game for both teams to define what direction the season will go. In Week 2, the Jets face a short week with a Thursday game in Foxboro and then will have winnable games with Buffalo and Tennessee in Weeks 3 and 4. The Jets might need a 3-1 start to have a chance to be close to .500 after the October gauntlet and that first few weeks could dictate the season in New York.

New York Jets 2013 Schedule Numbers:
2013 Opponents Win Percentage in 2012: .496
Games vs. 2012 Playoff Teams: 5 (one home, four away)
Miles Traveled for 8 road/neutral games: 5,121
Back-to-Back road game sets: 2
Primetime Games: 2 (one Thursday, one Monday)

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05/09/2013 07:30 PM

NFL Opening Numbers

May 7, 2013


Cantor Gaming in Las Vegas has released point-spreads for the first 16 weeks of the 2013-14 NFL regular season.

Week 1 starts on Thursday, Sept. 5, 2013.


Week 1
Away Home
Baltimore Ravens Denver Broncos (-7, -120)
New England Patriots (-7) Buffalo Bills
Tennessee Titans Pittsburgh Steelers (-7)
Atlanta Falcons New Orleans Saints (-1.5)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (-1.5) New York Jets
Kansas City Chiefs (-3) Jacksonville Jaguars
Cincinnati Bengals Chicago Bears (-3, -115)
Miami Dolphins (-1.5) Cleveland Browns
Seattle Seahawks (-3.5) Carolina Panthers
Minnesota Vikings Detroit Lions (-2.5)
Oakland Raiders Indianapolis Colts (-7, -105)
Arizona Cardinals St. Louis Rams (-4.5)
Green Bay Packers San Francisco 49ers (-4)
New York Giants Dallas Cowboys (-2.5)
Philadelphia Eagles Washington Redskins (-4.5)
Houston Texans (-3) San Diego Chargers


Week 2
Away Home
New York Jets New England Patriots (-8)
St. Louis Rams Atlanta Falcons (-7)
Carolina Panthers (-1) Buffalo Bills
Minnesota Vikings Chicago Bears (-2.5)
Washington Redskins Green Bay Packers (-4.5)
Miami Dolphins Indianapolis Colts (PK)
Dallas Cowboys (-1.5) Kansas City Chiefs
Cleveland Browns Baltimore Ravens (-7.5)
Tennessee Titans Houston Texans (-7.5)
San Diego Chargers Philadelphia Eagles (-2.5)
Detroit Lions (-2.5) Arizona Cardinals
New Orleans Saints (-1.5, -115) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Jacksonville Jaguars Oakland Raiders (-3)
Denver Broncos (-1) New York Giants
San Francisco 49ers Seattle Seahawks (-2.5)
Pittsburgh Steelers Cincinnati Bengals (-1)


Week 3
Away Home
Kansas City Chiefs Philadelphia Eagles (-3)
Green Bay Packers Cincinnati Bengals (PK)
St. Louis Rams Dallas Cowboys (-4.5)
San Diego Chargers (-2.5) Tennessee Titans
Cleveland Browns Minnesota Vikings (-6.5)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers New England Patriots (-7.5)
Arizona Cardinals New Orleans Saints (-7.5, -115)
Detroit Lions Washington Redskins (-2.5)
New York Giants (-1) Carolina Panthers
Houston Texans Baltimore Ravens (-3.5)
Atlanta Falcons (-1) Miami Dolphins
Buffalo Bills New York Jets (-3.5)
Indianapolis Colts San Francisco 49ers (-7.5)
Jacksonville Jaguars Seattle Seahawks (-14)
Chicago Bears Pittsburgh Steelers (-2.5)
Oakland Raiders Denver Broncos (-13.5)


Week 4
Away Home
San Francisco 49ers (-4) St. Louis Rams
Baltimore Ravens (-4) Buffalo Bills
Cincinnati Bengals (-3) Cleveland Browns
Chicago Bears Detroit Lions (-1)
New York Giants (-1.5) Kansas City Chiefs
** Pittsburgh Steelers (-1.5) Minnesota Vikings
Arizona Cardinals Tampa Bay Buccaneers (-4.5)
Indianapolis Colts (-3.5) Jacksonville Jaguars
Seattle Seahawks (-1) Houston Texans
New York Jets (-1, -105) Tennessee Titans
Philadelphia Eagles Denver Broncos (-7.5)
Dallas Cowboys San Diego Chargers (-1)
Washington Redskins (-4) Oakland Raiders
New England Patriots Atlanta Falcons (PK)
Miami Dolphins New Orleans Saints (-4.5, -115)
** Game Played at London, England


Week 5
Away Home
Buffalo Bills Cleveland Browns (-1.5)
New Orleans Saints Chicago Bears (-1)
New England Patriots (-1.5) Cincinnati Bengals
Jacksonville Jaguars St. Louis Rams (-6.5)
Baltimore Ravens (-1) Miami Dolphins
Philadelphia Eagles New York Giants (-4)
Detroit Lions Green Bay Packers (-4.5, -115)
Kansas City Chiefs Tennessee Titans (PK)
Seattle Seahawks (-4) Indianapolis Colts
Carolina Panthers (-1.5) Arizona Cardinals
Denver Broncos (-2.5) Dallas Cowboys
San Diego Chargers (-2.5, -115) Oakland Raiders
Houston Texans San Francisco 49ers (-5.5)
New York Jets Atlanta Falcons (-7, -105)


Week 6
Away Home
New York Giants Chicago Bears (-2.5)
Cincinnati Bengals (-2.5) Buffalo Bills
Detroit Lions (-1) Cleveland Browns
Oakland Raiders Kansas City Chiefs (-4.5)
Carolina Panthers Minnesota Vikings (-2.5, -115)
Philadelphia Eagles Tampa Bay Buccaneers (-1.5, -115)
Green Bay Packers Baltimore Ravens (-1)
St. Louis Rams Houston Texans (-4.5)
Pittsburgh Steelers (-1.5, -115) New York Jets
Jacksonville Jaguars Denver Broncos (-14, -105)
Tennessee Titans Seattle Seahawks (-11)
New Orleans Saints New England Patriots (-4, -115)
Arizona Cardinals San Francisco 49ers (-10)
Washington Redskins Dallas Cowboys (-1.5, -115)
Indianapolis Colts San Diego Chargers (-2.5)


Week 7
Away Home
Seattle Seahawks (-6) Arizona Cardinals
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Atlanta Falcons (-6)
Cincinnati Bengals Detroit Lions (-1.5)
Houston Texans (-2.5) Kansas City Chiefs
Buffalo Bills Miami Dolphins (-4)
New England Patriots (-4) New York Jets
Dallas Cowboys Philadelphia Eagles (PK)
Chicago Bears Washington Redskins (-1.5)
St. Louis Rams Carolina Panthers (-3.5)
San Diego Chargers (-3.5) Jacksonville Jaguars
San Francisco 49ers (-7) Tennessee Titans
Baltimore Ravens Pittsburgh Steelers (-1.5)
Cleveland Browns Green Bay Packers (-7.5)
Denver Broncos (-3.5) Indianapolis Colts
Minnesota Vikings New York Giants (-3)


Week 8
Away Home
Carolina Panthers Tampa Bay Buccaneers (-1.5)
Dallas Cowboys Detroit Lions (-1)
Cleveland Browns Kansas City Chiefs (-2.5)
Miami Dolphins New England Patriots (-7)
Buffalo Bills New Orleans Saints (-6.5)
** San Francisco 49ers (-10.5) Jacksonville Jaguars
New York Giants Philadelphia Eagles (PK)
Pittsburgh Steelers (-4.5) Oakland Raiders
New York Jets Cincinnati Bengals (-4.5)
Washington Redskins Denver Broncos (-6)
Atlanta Falcons (-4) Arizona Cardinals
Green Bay Packers (-1) Minnesota Vikings
Seattle Seahawks (-4) St. Louis Rams
** Game Played at London, England

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05/09/2013 07:31 PM

Week 9
Away Home
Cincinnati Bengals Miami Dolphins (-1)
Kansas City Chiefs Buffalo Bills (-1.5)
San Diego Chargers Washington Redskins (-3.5)
Atlanta Falcons (-1) Carolina Panthers
Minnesota Vikings Dallas Cowboys (-1.5)
Tennessee Titans St. Louis Rams (-4.5)
New Orleans Saints (-1.5) New York Jets
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Seattle Seahawks (-7)
Philadelphia Eagles (-1.5) Oakland Raiders
Pittsburgh Steelers New England Patriots (-4)
Baltimore Ravens (-3.5) Cleveland Browns
Indianapolis Colts Houston Texans (-4.5)
Chicago Bears Green Bay Packers (-4)


Week 10
Away Home
Washington Redskins Minnesota Vikings (-1.5)
Seattle Seahawks Atlanta Falcons (PK)
Detroit Lions Chicago Bears (-3)
Philadelphia Eagles Green Bay Packers (-7, -105)
Jacksonville Jaguars Tennessee Titans (-3.5)
St. Louis Rams Indianapolis Colts (-2.5)
Oakland Raiders New York Giants (-9)
Buffalo Bills Pittsburgh Steelers (-7)
Cincinnati Bengals Baltimore Ravens (-3)
Carolina Panthers San Francisco 49ers (-6)
Denver Broncos (-3) San Diego Chargers
Houston Texans (-3) Arizona Cardinals
Dallas Cowboys New Orleans Saints (-4)
Miami Dolphins Tampa Bay Buccaneers (-1.5)


Week 11
Away Home
Indianapolis Colts (-1) Tennessee Titans
New York Jets Buffalo Bills (-1.5)
Baltimore Ravens Chicago Bears (PK)
Cleveland Browns Cincinnati Bengals (-6)
Atlanta Falcons (-1) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Arizona Cardinals Jacksonville Jaguars (PK)
Oakland Raiders Houston Texans (-7.5)
San Diego Chargers Miami Dolphins (-3)
Washington Redskins Philadelphia Eagles (PK)
Detroit Lions Pittsburgh Steelers (-3.5)
Kansas City Chiefs Denver Broncos (-7.5)
Minnesota Vikings Seattle Seahawks (-6)
San Francisco 49ers New Orleans Saints (PK)
Green Bay Packers New York Giants (PK)
New England Patriots (-3) Carolina Panthers


Week 12
Away Home
New Orleans Saints Atlanta Falcons (-2.5, -115)
Pittsburgh Steelers (-3) Cleveland Browns
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Detroit Lions (-3.5)
Minnesota Vikings Green Bay Packers (-4.5)
San Diego Chargers Kansas City Chiefs (-1)
Chicago Bears (-1) St. Louis Rams
Carolina Panthers Miami Dolphins (-1.5)
New York Jets Baltimore Ravens (-6)
Jacksonville Jaguars Houston Texans (-10)
Indianapolis Colts Arizona Cardinals (PK)
Tennessee Titans Oakland Raiders (-1)
Dallas Cowboys New York Giants (-2.5, -115)
Denver Broncos New England Patriots (-1.5)
San Francisco 49ers (-1.5) Washington Redskins


Week 13
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Green Bay Packers (-1.5) Detroit Lions
Oakland Raiders Dallas Cowboys (-7)
Pittsburgh Steelers Baltimore Ravens (-2.5)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Carolina Panthers (-3)
Jacksonville Jaguars Cleveland Browns (-4.5)
Tennessee Titans Indianapolis Colts (-4.5)
Denver Broncos (-4) Kansas City Chiefs
Chicago Bears Minnesota Vikings (-1.5)
Miami Dolphins New York Jets (-1)
Arizona Cardinals Philadelphia Eagles (-4)
**Atlanta Falcons (-3) Buffalo Bills
St. Louis Rams San Francisco 49ers (-7.5)
New England Patriots Houston Texans (PK)
Cincinnati Bengals San Diego Chargers (PK)
New York Giants Washington Redskins (-1.5)
New Orleans Saints Seattle Seahawks (-3.5)
** Game Played at Toronto, Ontario


Week 14
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Houston Texans (-4.5) Jacksonville Jaguars
Indianapolis Colts Cincinnati Bengals (-4.5)
Buffalo Bills Tampa Bay Buccaneers (-3)
Kansas City Chiefs Washington Redskins (-4.5)
Minnesota Vikings Baltimore Ravens (-3.5)
Cleveland Browns New England Patriots (-8.5)
Carolina Panthers New Orleans Saints (-3.5)
Oakland Raiders New York Jets (-6)
Detroit Lions Philadelphia Eagles (-1)
Miami Dolphins Pittsburgh Steelers (-3.5)
Tennessee Titans Denver Broncos (-10)
New York Giants San Diego Chargers (PK)
Seattle Seahawks San Francisco 49ers (-2.5)
St. Louis Rams Arizona Cardinals (PK)
Atlanta Falcons Green Bay Packers (-3)
Dallas Cowboys Chicago Bears (-3)


Week 15
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San Diego Chargers Denver Broncos (-6.5)
Washington Redskins Atlanta Falcons (-3)
Chicago Bears (-1.5) Cleveland Browns
Arizona Cardinals Tennessee Titans (-1)
Houston Texans Indianapolis Colts (PK)
New Orleans Saints (-1.5) St. Louis Rams
New England Patriots (-2) Miami Dolphins
Philadelphia Eagles Minnesota Vikings (-3.5)
Seattle Seahawks (-1) New York Giants
Buffalo Bills (-1) Jacksonville Jaguars
San Francisco 49ers (-3) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
New York Jets Carolina Panthers (-3)
Kansas City Chiefs Oakland Raiders (PK)
Green Bay Packers (-1) Dallas Cowboys
Cincinnati Bengals Pittsburgh Steelers (-2.5)
Baltimore Ravens Detroit Lions (PK)


Week 16
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Miami Dolphins Buffalo Bills (PK)
Minnesota Vikings Cincinnati Bengals (-2.5)
Indianapolis Colts Kansas City Chiefs (-1)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers St. Louis Rams (-1)
Cleveland Browns New York Jets (-3)
Chicago Bears Philadelphia Eagles (PK)
Dallas Cowboys Washington Redskins (-2.5)
New Orleans Saints Carolina Panthers (PK)
Tennessee Titans Jacksonville Jaguars (PK)
Denver Broncos Houston Texans (PK)
Arizona Cardinals Seattle Seahawks (-8.5)
New York Giants Detroit Lions (-1.5)
Pittsburgh Steelers Green Bay Packers (-3)
Oakland Raiders San Diego Chargers (-4.5)
New England Patriots Baltimore Ravens (PK)
Atlanta Falcons San Francisco 49ers (-3.5)

Always remember the 3 G's Girls,Golf, Gambling not in any particular order......:2thumbs:
cnotes Posts:23749 Followers:32
05/09/2013 07:33 PM

Bucs' Barber to retire after 16 seasons

May 8, 2013



TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - Three-time All-Pro Ronde Barber is retiring after a 16-year career with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that included a Super Bowl title and five Pro Bowl appearances.

The Bucs announced Wednesday night that the 38-year-old twin brother of former New York Giants running back Tiki Barber will not return to play on a defense overhauled since the end of last season. Tampa Bay acquired Darrelle Revis, Dashon Goldson and second-round draft pick Johnthan Banks for its secondary.

The retirement was first reported by Fox Sports.com, who quoted Barber as saying: ``I've had a better run than I ever could've dreamed of having.''

Tiki Barber, who retired from the Giants after the 2006 season, had a post on his Twitter account that read: ``Congrats & happy for my twin, Ronde, who's hanging up the cleats!''

Ronde Barber played cornerback for 15 seasons before moving to safety last year. He played his entire career with the Bucs and is the franchise leader in interceptions with 47. He also scored eight touchdowns and had 28 sacks in 241 games.

``Ronde is synonymous with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, establishing himself as one of our franchise's iconic players over a 16-year, Hall of Fame-worthy career,'' Bucs co-chairman Joel Glazer said in a statement. ``When anyone thinks of Ronde, they think of a true professional and leader. He approached every day the same, giving everything he had to make himself and his teammates the best they could be. We will miss him.''

Barber was a third-round pick out of Virginia is 1997 and struggled early in his career, appearing in just one game as a rookie. He finished with a stretch of 215 consecutive starts, tied for the sixth-longest streak in NFL history.

A team captain for the past nine years, Barber made the transition from cornerback to safety in 2012, Tampa Bay's first season under coach Greg Schiano.

Schiano's top priority this offseason was revamping a secondary that nearly set a league record for most yards passing allowed in a season.

The Bucs began reshaping the defense with the signing of Goldson, an All-Pro safety last season in San Francisco, to a five-year, $41.25 million deal in free agency. Last month, the team traded the 13th overall pick in the draft to the New York Jets in exchange for Revis, a three-time All Pro cornerback who also got a new six-year, $96 million contract.

With veteran Eric Wright returning and last year's No. 1 draft pick Mark Barron entering his second season at safety, that left little room for Barber in Tampa Bay's plans - especially after Banks was selected in the second round of the draft to compete with Wright for a starting job.

Barber is the only player in NFL history with 40-plus interceptions and 25 or more sacks. He returned eight picks for regular-season touchdowns and clinched Tampa Bay's victory over Philadelphia in the 2002 NFC championship game with a 92-yard return for a TD off Donovan McNabb.

Always remember the 3 G's Girls,Golf, Gambling not in any particular order......:2thumbs:
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05/10/2013 12:14 PM

Atlantis Casino first book to release 2013 NFL season win totals

The Atlantis Casino Resort Spa in Reno, Nevada is the first sportsbook to release 2013 NFL season win totals, setting the over/under on victories for all 32 teams Thursday.

Atlantis sportsbook director Steve Mikkelson, renowned for being the first to release MLB season win totals each year, crunched the NFL numbers on his day off Wednesday and sat down with Covers to discuss some of the most interesting win totals on the board before they went live Thursday afternoon.

Toughest win totals to set – Kansas City Chiefs (6.5), Philadelphia Eagles (7.5) and Detroit Lions (7.5)

“For me, the toughest win totals to set were the Chiefs, Eagles and Lions because they all underachieved last year,” Mikkelson told Covers. “The Chiefs and Eagles have new coaches, with Andy Reid and Chip Kelly, so you’d like to think that would make a difference. But it’s an unknown.”

Biggest difference from last year – Seattle Seahawks (11)

“The Seahawks were 7.5 wins last year and now we have them at 11. We have some teams going up by three, like Denver and Indianapolis, but the Seahawks are the biggest jump. That defense is dominating and Russell Wilson played so well in his first year. Some people think they’re the best team in the NFL. Even though (the NFC West is) a tough division, you have to think of them as one of the best and we weren’t saying that last year.”

Highest season win total – Denver Broncos (12)

“It’s not really a case of me thinking they’re the absolute best team in football, but you look at that schedule and (the AFC West) division and I don’t know where they’re going to get those losses from. As long as (Peyton) Manning stays healthy, I don’t see a whole lot of losses for this team.”

Lowest season win total – Jacksonville Jaguars (4.5)

“Not really a surprise. It’s just a case of them not having a lot going for them,” says Mikkelson. “I’m not sold on the quarterback situation and I’m not sure if Blaine Gabbert can play. They had a nice draft, but is that really going transition them into being a strong team? Maurice Jones-Drew is back but how healthy is he going to be? They’re just a bad team and it’s tough to give them wins. I could have easily went with four but everyone likes to bet the low totals up and the high ones down.”

Here are the Atlantis Casino Resort Spa's 2013 NFL season win totals (limits $500 per wager):

Arizona Cardinals

Over 6 -110
Under 6 -120

Atlanta Falcons

Over 10 -135
Under 10 +105

Baltimore Ravens

Over 9.5 -120
Under 9.5 -110

Buffalo Bills

Over 5 -135
Under 5 +105

Carolina Panthers

Over 6.5 -130
Under 6.5 EVEN

Chicago Bears

Over 8.5 -145
Under +115

Cincinnati Bengals

Over 9 -115
Under 9 -115

Cleveland Browns

Over 5 +120
Under 5 -150

Dallas Cowboys

Over 8.5 -150
Under 8.5 +120

Denver Broncos

Over 12 -130
Under 12 EVEN

Detroit Lions

Over 7 -115
Under 7 -115

Green Bay Packers

Over 12 -115
Under 12 -115

Houston Texans

Over 11 -150
Under 11 +110

Indianapolis Colts

Over 8 -150
Under 8 +120

Jacksonville Jaguars

Over 4.5 -140
Under 4.5 +110

Kansas City Chiefs

Over 6.5 -130
Under 6.5 EVEN

Miami Dolphins

Over 7.5 -115
Under 7.5 -115

Minnesota Vikings

Over 7.5 -115
Under 7.5 -115

New England Patriots

Over 11.5 -140
Under 11.5 -140

New Orleans Saints

Over 9.5 -115
Under 9.5 -115

New York Giants

Over 9 -120
Under 9 -110

New York Jets

Over 7 -120
Under 7 -110

Oakland Raiders

Over 5.5 -115
Under 5.5 -115

Philadelphia Eagles

Over 6.5 -150
Under 6.5 +120

Pittsburgh Steelers

Over 10 -130
Under EVEN

San Diego Chargers

Over 7 EVEN
Under 7 -130

San Francisco 49ers

Over 11.5 -140
Under +110

Seattle Seahawks

Over 11 -140
Under 11 +110

St. Louis Rams

Over 8 -115
Under 8 -115

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Over 6.5 -115
Under 6.5 -115

Tennessee Titans

Over 6.5 +110
Under 6.5 -140

Washington Redskins

Over 9 -110
Under 9 -120
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cnotes Posts:23749 Followers:32
05/10/2013 05:46 PM

Manti Te'o participates in 1st rookie camp

May 10, 2013


SAN DIEGO (AP) - Chargers coach Mike McCoy wasn't interested in talking about Manti Te'o's past Friday as the second-round pick reported for the team's three-day rookie camp.

Said McCoy, ``We're moving on. He's one of ours now and we're going to win a lot of football games with him.''

The Chargers traded up in the second round of last month's NFL draft to select the standout linebacker from Notre Dame.

Te'o arrived with plenty of credentials and a back story that has transcended sports.

He slipped out of the opening round of the draft in part because of a poor performance in the national championship game against Alabama.

Te'o also became the butt of national jokes after it was revealed he was duped into an Internet romance with a girlfriend he never met and who never actually existed.

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05/10/2013 05:48 PM

Smith gives himself 'F' for 1st Jets practice

May 10, 2013



FLORHAM PARK, N.J. (AP) - Geno Smith was surrounded by a throng of reporters, a crowded scene usually more appropriate for a No. 1 draft pick than a second-rounder.

But Smith, of course, isn't your ordinary No. 39 selection. And, the New York Jets are certainly used to their quarterbacks - and backup quarterbacks, for that matter - getting this type of attention.

``I just come out,'' Smith said Friday, ``and be my natural self.''

Who that is exactly has been open to some debate in recent weeks as Smith has taken lots of criticism for his abilities on the field - despite a record-breaking career at West Virginia - and his attitude off it. Various published reports painted Smith as an immature diva who didn't always take football seriously enough.

``Maybe I don't know what the diva behavior looks like,'' coach Rex Ryan said. ``I never saw that at all.''

Smith's free fall from potential top-10 pick, and his reported decision - and later, change of heart - to leave New York rather than return to the draft site at Radio City Music Hall added to the perception. As did Smith firing his two agents shortly after the draft.

He's done with all that. Still without an agent, Smith is ready to move on to football again.

``I think it's been a more eventful few weeks for the media,'' Smith said. ``My only job is to focus on what I have here and get better.''

And there's plenty to do, if you ask Smith, who said all the right things after his first practice of rookie minicamp.

``I'm going to be tough on myself,'' Smith said. ``I'll let the coaches do the grading, but if I say it, it's an F because I want to be an A-plus.

``Hey man, that's just the way I do things.''

Despite the tough self-evaluation, the quarterback looked pretty good during practice. Smith appeared to have a solid working knowledge of the playbook, and zipped many of his passes - mostly in short yardage - around the field.

He also worked under center most of the time, something he wasn't used to doing during his time at West Virginia. Smith hesitated a few times on some throws, and was even yelled at by offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg for failing to pull off a play-action bootleg pass.

Rookie jitters? Smith won't go there.

``There are no excuses here,'' Smith said. ``We've all got to study our playbooks and be prepared for practice. If he felt like I needed to pick things up, then he'll get on me, which he did. I'm receptive to that, and I did what he asked of me.''

Yes, the man some anonymously labeled as not very coachable said all the right things after practice, appearing humble and clear of his role on the team.

While many assume that will be to someday become the Jets' starting quarterback, Smith refused to look too far ahead.

``I have a job to do as of right now, and that's to come in and compete,'' he said. ``Right now, there's a long ways to go in that process. This is only Step 1, Day 1, but it was fun to get out here on the practice field and enjoy my teammates and coaches.''

The plan is to have Smith compete for the starting job this summer with Mark Sanchez and David Garrard, as well as Greg McElroy and Matt Simms - although those two likely have no realistic shot at winning it. Smith said he was told that Sanchez will get ``the majority of the reps'' in training camp.

``I know Mark is a competitor, and I understand Mark wants to win the job,'' Smith said. ``We all do. But at the same time, I'm going to learn from him and David and Greg.''

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thehitman Posts:2053 Followers:4
05/10/2013 06:30 PM

Thanks for all this, man. Never too early to brush up on foots !

Never, ever criticize someone until you have walked a mile in their shoes........for at that point they will be a mile away. And you'll have their shoes !